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kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.07.22 0 0 30

Távozik posztjáról a BBC hírigazgatója

Richard Sambrook a Kelly-öngyilkosságról közzétett, súlyosan elmarasztaló vizsgálati jelentés kései áldozataként távozik posztjáról, bár egykori vezetőtársaival ellentétben ő a cégnél marad.

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kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.04.02 0 0 29
Michael Grade, a brit független Channel 4 volt igazgatója lesz a BBC elnöke – közölte pénteken a BBC News 24 tv-csatorna. Gavyn Davies, a BBC igazgatótanácsának volt elnöke tavaly júniusban mondott le a David Kelly védelmi főtanácsadó öngyilkossága körüli botrány miatt.
NOL
kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.01.30 0 0 28
Jól választottál, többek közt rájuk gondoltam...

A maiból:

The former BBC director general Greg Dyke today branded Alastair Campbell's reaction to the Hutton inquiry "ungracious" and described his shock at the outcome of the report.

Mr Dyke, who resigned from his post in the wake of Lord Hutton's condemnation of the BBC, said he believed the corporation was not the only one that made mistakes.

"I think Alastair and others have been remarkably ungracious," he said when asked on GMTV about Mr Campbell's conduct over the past few days.

Mr Dyke added: "We were all at the BBC, 20 of us who got it the day before, we were all absolutely shocked by Hutton. We were shocked that it was so black and white. We knew mistakes had been made by us but we didn't believe they were only by us."

Mr Dyke, who said today he had resigned after explaining to the governors that he could not stay without their 'active support', said there were contradictions in evidence given by Mr Campbell.

"One of the questions that is still to be asked is go back and study Mr Campbell's evidence to the Foreign Affairs Committee and then go back and look at his evidence to Hutton and see the remarkable contradictions."

Mr Dyke refused to elaborate, saying: "You'll see them."

He said in his opinion Lord Hutton's report contained mistakes on points of law.

"I would be very interested in what a few other Law Lords on looking at Hutton thought of it ... We have an opinion that there are points of law in there where he is quite clearly wrong."

Mr Dyke insisted that the BBC had not accused Tony Blair of lying.

"The Prime Minister consistently comes back and says effectively 'I was accused of lying'. We never accused the Prime Minister of lying."

Mr Dyke said of Lord Hutton's findings on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: "He has given the benfit of judgment to virtually everyone in Government but to no-one at the BBC."

He said Mr Campbell had been "running a campaign to try to influence the BBC's coverage of the Iraq war."

Előzmény: dolphin (16)
razilklingo Creative Commons License 2004.01.30 0 0 27
A mai Tageszeitung szerint Blair nevezte ki Hutton bírót, aki túl jó munkát végzett. Az első közvéleménykutatások is igazolják ezt. A többség nem hiszi el a jelentést.
Hettie Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 26
Ez az egesz Blair Brown dolog nagyon erdekes. James Naughty irt rola egy konyvet. Allitolag uj paktumot kotottek, nem is olyan regen. Nem tudni mirol szol, de Brown kiallt Blair mellett. Pedig ha mas nem, o tudja, hogy a tandijemeles vagy valtozo tandij a hianyzo penznek csak a tiz szazalekat biztositja...
Előzmény: dolphin (25)
dolphin Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 25
A mai allapotok kozt szvsz Blair szamara a legnagyobb veszely sajat hatorszagabol leselkedik: ha pl . Brown nem allt volna ki mellette a tandij kapcsan, szerintem aligha lett volna meg a sovanyka tobbsege. Es hat elegge nyilt titok, hogy Gordon Brown milyen celokat dedelget....
Előzmény: Hettie (24)
Hettie Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 24
Ajanlom a Sun-t:) hogy meglegyen az egyensuly.
Egyebkent tudsz valakit az ellenzekbol aki meg tudja verni Blairt? En nem.
Előzmény: dolphin (22)
Hettie Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 23
Tony Blair marad. A ketparti demokracia abszurduma. Ha az ellenzek olyan erotlen, akkor mindegy, hogy mennyire hiteles a PM.

Egyebkent a BBC nehanyszaz munkatarsa tuntetett ma delutan.

dolphin Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 22
Nehez megitelni, de amennyire en a Guardian-t, Independent-et es BBC forumokat olvasgattam (mivel mindegyik haboru ellenes volt, ezert ez nem feltetlenul tukrozi a valos kepet), ugy tunik, hogy eleg sok embernek felmet a Hutton-jelentestol a vercukra. Meg a vegen az is lehet, hogy Blair ugyan a csatat megnyerte, de ez a Labour hatalmaba fog kerulni. Meglassuk...
(Erdekes, hogy a jelentest elteto hozzaszolasok kozott - BBC forum - kb a 2/3 az USA-bol szarmazik, gondolom (na jo, a fenebe is en sem birok teljesen objektiv maradni az ugyben ;-P) a Fox (franciasan: Faux) News-on szocializalodottak lehetnek ezek. :-))
mibi Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 20
Vajon K. Brekkencs Katalin hallotta-e a hirt?
szutyok Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 19
Előzmény: kábelbúvár (18)
kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 18
Bár Gavyn Davies BBC-elnök lemondását elismeréssel nyugtázta a Blair-kabinet, az elnököt a tizenegy tagú vezetés is követheti a tegnap közzétett Hutton-jelentés elmarasztaló fejezetei miatt. Blairék leginkább Greg Dyke műsorigazgató lemondását szeretnék elérni.
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dolphin Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 17
" (hogy a forrasukat nem a vegtelensegig vedeni, hanem kiadni)"

Hat emiatt "erdekes" a jelentes: az egesz balhet Kelly halalaert a BBC-n verik le, pedig nem is ok neveztek meg, hanem a Vedelmi Miniszterium (MoD) szivarogtatta ki a nevet...

Előzmény: geszthi (7)
dolphin Creative Commons License 2004.01.29 0 0 16
"Nem tom, az angol (független) sajtó mit fog ehhez szólni...."

Hat, nem 'tom, hogy total fuggetlen van-e :-).

Independent
Demands grow for inquiry into the case for war as Hutton is accused of a 'whitewash'
By Andrew Grice Political Editor

29 January 2004

The BBC chairman Gavyn Davies became the first casualty of the inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly as Lord Hutton was accused last night of presiding over a "whitewash".

Tony Blair, his former director of communications Alastair Campbell and the Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon were all cleared of any improper behaviour leading up to the suicide of the weapons expert, bringing barely disguised relief in Government circles.

Vindication of Mr Blair allowed him to survive the most testing 24 hours of his premiership, following his wafer-thin victory in Tuesday's Commons vote on tuition fees. The combination of both events could have cost the Prime Minister his job but one jubilant aide said last night: "Houdini has done it again."

However, Lord Hutton failed to settle the crucial question of whether Mr Blair took Britain to war in Iraq on a false prospectus. After he ruled that the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was beyond his terms of reference, the Tories and Liberal Democrats renewed their demands for an independent inquiry into the build-up to war.

The 740-page report sent shockwaves through the BBC. Lord Hutton said that the BBC journalist Andrew Gilligan's allegation that the Government had "sexed up" its dossier on Iraqi weapons and included intelligence it knew to be probably wrong or questionable was "unfounded".

He criticised as "defective" the BBC management system which allowed the reporter to make his claims on Radio 4's Today programme and said the BBC governors should have investigated the Government's complaint about his story more fully.

The BBC board of governors was in a crisis session last night and will meet again today amid speculation that further resignations are on the cards - possibly by all 12 members.

Accepting "ultimate responsibility", Mr Davies said: "I have been brought up to believe that you cannot choose your own referee, and that the referee's decision is final."

But he went on to challenge key elements of Lord Hutton's findings, asking: "Is it clearly possible to reconcile Lord Hutton's bald conclusions on the production of the September 2002 dossier with the balance of evidence that was presented to him during his own inquiry?"

He also asked: "Are his conclusions on restricting the use of unverifiable sources in British journalism based on sound law and, if applied, would they constitute a threat to the freedom of the press in this country?" Mr Davies's comments reflected anger at the BBC at Lord Hutton's surprisingly strong criticism. One BBC insider described it as "an old man's report that is simply wrong".

Greg Dyke, the corporation's director general, said: "The BBC does accept that certain key allegations reported by Andrew Gilligan on the Today programme on 29 May last year were wrong and we apologise for them."

Yesterday's damning judgment on the BBC could have far-reaching implications. It is bound to increase pressure for the governors' regulatory role to be handed to Ofcom, the new communications watchdog, following a government review of the BBC charter which is already underway.

Lord Hutton did criticise the Ministry of Defence for not warning Dr Kelly that his name would become public. But the rebuke was not enough to threaten the position of Mr Hoon, who had been widely seen as the most likely casualty of the inquiry. However, he may move to another post in a cabinet reshuffle shortly.

Lord Hutton surprised many MPs by finding the Government did "not behave in a dishonourable, underhand or duplicitous way" in confirming Dr Kelly's name to reporters who suggested it to the MoD press office after the Government announced that a civil servant had come forward who might be Mr Gilligan's source.

Austin Mitchell, the Labour MP for Great Grimsby, said: "It is a whitewash, basically. The danger is that it is so one-sided a report that it is going to lose credibility. People just aren't going to believe it."

Michael Portillo, the Tory former defence secretary, said: "Certainly I don't think No 10 could be more satisfied if Alastair Campbell had written it - it's very satisfactory from No 10's point of view."

Mr Campbell, who left Downing Street last September, said: "What the report shows very clearly is this: the Prime Minister told the truth, the Government told the truth, I told the truth. The BBC, from the chairman and director general down, did not. Today the stain on the integrity of the Prime Minister and the Government has been removed."

A confident Mr Blair was cheered by Labour MPs after Lord Hutton's findings enabled him to win his Commons joust with Michael Howard. Welcoming the report, the Prime Minister said Lord Hutton had found no evidence to support "a charge of deception, of duplicity, of deceit". He said: "The allegation that I or anyone else lied to this House or deliberately misled the country by falsifying intelligence on weapons of mass destruction is itself the real lie. And I simply ask that those who made it and those who have repeated it over all these months now withdraw it, fully, openly and clearly."

Mr Howard, who was booed by Labour MPs, accepted Lord Hutton's conclusions but refused to apologise to Mr Blair. He said: "Isn't there the starkest contrast between David Kelly - the dedicated scientist and weapons inspector who had done so much for our country - and the cabal of ministers and advisers who were so obsessed with their war with the BBC that they gave scant attention to his welfare?"

Charles Kennedy, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: "The report leaves big questions unanswered, because inevitably they were not addressed. We are still no closer to determining whether this country went to war on a false prospectus. We need an independent inquiry to find out why that happened."

On Dr Kelly himself, Lord Hutton said the government scientist broke civil service rules by his unauthorised meeting with Mr Gilligan and said he was "not an easy man to help or to whom to give advice".

But a statement issued on behalf of Dr Kelly's family said: "If their personal tragedy is not to be compounded, they urge that, regardless of any criticism or exoneration in the report, the Government takes action to ensure that the ordeal suffered by David Kelly will never be repeated. No other person should have to suffer the pressure that he experienced."

In a final submission to Lord Hutton, published last night, the Kelly family said: "The Government made a conscious decision to cause Dr Kelly's identity to be revealed and it did so in order to assist it in the battle with the BBC." The family seized on Mr Campbell's diaries as evidence of the Government's "improper" intent. In one extract disclosed to the inquiry, Mr Campbell wrote: "The biggest thing needed was the source out."

Előzmény: kábelbúvár (6)
aaa02 Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 15
Mielött elhinnénk hogy "független" volt
ez a bíróság, gondolkodjunk el azon , ha
(a igazságnak megfelően ) a Bliar-t meszeli el:

Lemond Bliar, meg a kormánya.
Anglia részvétele az Iraki megszállásban meginog.
Domino elven a többi megszálló is menekülne.
Az Irakiak többszörös erővel harcolnak a függet-
lenségükért.
Mégnagyobb (ha lehet még fokozni) káosz
zürzavar Irakban.
A világgazdaságra és stabilitásra kedvezőtlen hatások.

Szóval Bliar egy hazug tömeggyilkos vagy, de
már túl késő leváltani téged, fejezd be művedet.

(Szóval annyira káros Bliar-t elmozdítani most
helyéről mint ammennyire Husszeint volt
Bliar=Husszein,(csak Husszein kevesebbet hazudott))

kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 14
Az Irakban kutató amerikai szakértők további bizonyítékot találtak arra, hogy Szaddám Huszein volt iraki elnök rezsimje a kilencvenes évek közepén csendben felszámolta biológiai és vegyifegyver-készleteit. David Kay főszakértő szerint a világ minden hírszerzése tévedett az iraki fegyvereket illetően, nemcsak a CIA.

http://index.hu/politika/kulfold/0128saddam/

Előzmény: AAAaaa (13)
AAAaaa Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 13
Hogy a Kelly mennyit jelentett a kormanynak ebben a temaban? (Szakerto volt, nem kem. Ellenorkent volt Irakban es az ellenorok nem talaltak semmit)
Vegul is valaki jelentett es valaki nem ellenorizte az allitasokat. Ebbol lett egy haboru es ennek a hibanak (pontatlan hirszerzes miatt inditott tobb ezer aldozattal jaro haboru) meg nincs felelose.

Az egyik legfontosabb tanulsaga az esetnek (egy iraki menekult fogalmazta meg), hogy a brittek belemennek egy haboruba es nem foglalkoznak a helyi lakossaggal, hogy civilek ezrei halnak meg. De meghalt egy britt felcivil (Kelly reszben a titkosszolgalatnak dolgozott) es rogton mindenfele vizsgalodas, lemondas koveteles indul.

Előzmény: pancer1 (12)
pancer1 Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 12
Talán az az alapja amit Dr. Kelly jelentett a kormánynak, még a háború elött. Ugyanis ő is komolyan gondolta a fenyegetést, és a háború pártján állt ő is.
Előzmény: AAAaaa (9)
AAAaaa Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 11
A BBC akkor nevezte meg Kelly-t amikor mar meghalt.
Nem olvastam vegig a jelentest (nem is fogom teljesen) de en ugy ertelmeztem, hogy a kormany bolintott ra a nevre. Azt nem talaltam meg meg, hogy emliti-e a jelentes, hogy honnan szivargott ki.
Előzmény: geszthi (10)
geszthi Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 10
(4)(A) On the issue whether the Government behaved in a way which was dishonourable or underhand or duplicitous in revealing Dr Kelly's name to the media my conclusions are " as follows :

(i) There was no dishonourable or underhand or duplicitous strategy by the Government covertly to leak Dr Kelly's name to the media.
...

Therefore I consider that the Government did not behave in a dishonourable or underhand or duplicitous way in issuing on 8 July 2003, after it had been read over to Dr Kelly and he had said that he was content with it, a statement which said that a civil servant, who was not named, had come forward to volunteer that he had met Mr Gilligan on 22 May.

Előzmény: AAAaaa (8)
AAAaaa Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 9
"Nem tom, az angol (független) sajtó mit fog ehhez szólni...."

Megkerdezik, hogy mi volt az alapja a 45 perces vadnak.
A BBC-nek is ez a fegyvere mar regota, naponta, hetente levetitik ahogy Blair bejelenti a parlamentben a 45 perces vadat. Lassan megerik...

Előzmény: kábelbúvár (6)
AAAaaa Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 8
"(hogy a forrasukat nem a vegtelensegig vedeni, hanem kiadni)"

Tevedes. A forrast a kormany adta ki (szivarogtatta ki), nem a BBC.

Előzmény: geszthi (7)
geszthi Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 7
MIt szolna? Szvsz, Semmit. Az egesz amit a BBC is muvelt (hogy a forrasukat nem a vegtelensegig vedeni, hanem kiadni) 20 eve meg elkepzelhetetlen lett volna.

No ezert kell lemondania.

Előzmény: kábelbúvár (6)
kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 6
Eléggé 2-pólusúra hegyezték ki a végjátékot.

Nem tom, az angol (független) sajtó mit fog ehhez szólni....

Előzmény: dolphin (4)
rendes gyerek Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 5
Annyira azért az Ő rendszerük sem tiszta!
Előzmény: dolphin (4)
dolphin Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 4
Igy kell ezt: a feleloseget el kell ismerni, es nem masra kenni, meg ha lehetne is. Forditott esetben valszleg Blair kellett volna lemondjon.
AAAaaa Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 3
Korrekt lepes, bar Blair lemondasanak jobban orultem volna...
Előzmény: kábelbúvár (-)
kábelbúvár Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 2
Valami rémlik...
Előzmény: hurkazsírosnápolyi (1)
hurkazsírosnápolyi Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 1
Melyik rádió és TV adó a BBC stratégiai partnere magyarországon?
Előzmény: kábelbúvár (-)
JEFFREY Creative Commons License 2004.01.28 0 0 0
Nálunk mikor tanulnak tartást "fűggetlenjeik" közszolgálatiak?
Előzmény: kábelbúvár (-)

Ha kedveled azért, ha nem azért nyomj egy lájkot a Fórumért!