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Afrikaans8 Creative Commons License 2016-04-07 23:33:41 3142

https://www.academia.edu/10108013/Bayan_and_Asparuch

BeNZiN Creative Commons License 2014-03-21 15:17:16 1422

Csak hangosan gondolkodok, de lehet, hogy korai iszlám neveket is be kéne venni a vizsgálódásba, a honfoglalásra már bőven nem volt egyeduralkodó a zsidó vallás a kazároknál.

 

 

 

BeNZiN Creative Commons License 2014-03-17 13:00:37 1421

 Zlatibor szláv névből ? Nekem nem meggyőző, bár eszkil-székely mintára a hangsorrend változása éppenséggel lehetséges is lehet.

 

Tomtom76 Creative Commons License 2014-03-09 15:50:04 1420

Hát nem tom'...

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Afrikaans8 Creative Commons License 2014-03-09 15:10:40 1419

Almiš > Álmos (Ámosz?)

Iltäbär > Latibor, Latabár

 

A bolgárokkal szemben a magyarok a mély hangrendű változatokat preferálták?

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Afrikaans8 Creative Commons License 2014-03-09 14:48:44 1417

Elteber (Old Turkic elteber) was the client king of an autonomous but tributary tribe or polity in the hierarchy of the Turkic khaganates and Khazar Khaganate. In the case of the Khazar Khaganate, the rulers of such vassal peoples as the Volga Bulgars (only until 969, after that they were independent and created a powerful state), Burtas and North Caucasian Huns were titled elteber or some variant such as Ilutwer, Ilutver (North Caucasian Huns), Yiltawar or İltäbär (Volga Bulgaria, until 969). An Elteber (Almış) is known to have met the famous Muslim traveller Ibn Fadlan and requested assistance from the Abbasids of Baghdad. The earliest extant mention of the term is for a ruler of the North Caucasian Huns in the 680s, referred to in Christian sources from Caucasian Albania as Alp Ilutuer. The title was also mentioned in Letter to Kültegin in 732. It was used by rulers of pre-Islamic Volga Bulgaria during the period of their vassalage to the Khazars.

 

Az Alp közismert török személynév.

 

Alp Ilutuer was the Ilutuer (vassal ruler) of the North Caucasian Huns during the 680's CE. He is mentioned in the account of Bishop Israel of Caucasian Albania, who travelled to Alp Ilutuer's court in an unsuccessful attempt to convert him and his people to Christianity. Alp is an Old Turkic word meaning "hero", though it also sometimes was used as a personal name. Ilutuer is believed to be a cognate of the ancient Turkic title for a vassal ruler (in this case, vassal to the Khazars. Therefore it is unclear whether Alp Ilutuer is a proper name, a title, or a combination of the two. In 670s he provoked some raids against the Khazars and heroically died in war. Alp Iluetuer is still remembered in Bulgar and Chuvash legend.His name's correct construction must be Alp İlteber according to Old Turkic.

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